Surveys suggest most women orgasm by penetration without simultaneous clitoral stimul

[johnson13]

That most women don't orgasm by penetration is a myth spread all over the internet. In the biggest scientific survey (IFOP) ever conducted where they distinguish between orgasm by penetration and penetration with clitoral stroking, 68% of the 8000 women reach orgasm at least "somewhat easily" by penetration without stroking the clitoris.

IFOP is an international polling and market research firm. While it also shows 59% of those who have had anal sex has also orgasmed from it, but they don’t have separate questions here for with or without clitoral stimulation. In other words, this high number surely includes clitoral stimulation.

In the DocDroid document below, I compare other questions in IFOP's study with other studies, how many have ever masturbated, had an orgasm etc. The numbers agree quite well with other studies, suggesting IFOP is indeed reliable and have not found a sample that is abnormal. This is not the only study showing most orgasm by penetration alone. This does not mean most women orgasm most of the time, likely due to the man often climaxes before, distraction, lack of foreplay etc.

See the pdfs at the bottom on this page (IFOP): Year of the Female Orgasm Sex Survey - CAM4 Insights - #yotfoCAM4

For in depth analysis with more studies see my link on DocDroid: study_color.pdf
Section 2 is the core of my article, which includes a defence (sec. 2.1.1) of potential criticism of the IFOP survey. I also show that most circumcised women climax more often than seldom with intercourse (66% of the 827 women).

The introduction shows how many sex educators and the like misrepresent studies, so as to reduce the number on how many orgasm by penetration.

The references are mostly behind paywalls, but can be reached with sci-hub.tw (enter captcha afterwards).

[amravat123]

always sparks some interesting debates. The survey from IFOP is intriguing because it challenges the common belief that most women need simultaneous clitoral stimulation to orgasm during penetration. From my personal experience and what I've read, I believe it's more about the overall connection and comfort with your partner. Women can absolutely orgasm from penetration alone, especially if there's the right level of emotional intimacy, relaxation, and arousal.

However, I think the key is that many women are likely not aware of how their bodies respond during intercourse without focusing too much on the clitoral stimulation. It’s possible that some women have just never been able to fully tune into those sensations during penetration because there is so much emphasis on clitoral stimulation in mainstream discussions about female orgasm.

On the flip side, I do think many women experience more intense orgasms with some form of clitoral stimulation, whether direct or indirect. So while it's interesting that penetration alone can lead to orgasms for a majority, I think the experience varies widely depending on the person. A lot of it also has to do with how comfortable they feel and whether they know their own body.

What I do appreciate about this survey, though, is that it challenges the myth that women can't orgasm from penetration alone. It reminds us that every woman’s body is different, and we should prioritize communication in sexual relationships, as well as exploration, to understand what works best for each individual.

[hanar123]

I found this survey to be really interesting because it seems to go against the grain of what we typically hear in discussions about female orgasm. For years, it's been portrayed that most women need clitoral stimulation in addition to penetration to reach orgasm. So, seeing that 68% of women in this survey experience orgasm with penetration alone definitely made me rethink things a bit.

That being said, I do think the context of the survey is important. The fact that the study distinguishes between just penetration and penetration with clitoral stimulation is essential, as it shows that the experience of orgasm can differ widely based on how the stimulation is delivered. For example, some women might experience orgasm through deep penetration that directly stimulates certain areas inside, while others might need more focused external touch.

I also wonder how much of this study reflects personal experience versus the way women are often socialized to view their own pleasure. Many women are taught that they "need" clitoral stimulation to orgasm, and that might influence how they interpret their experiences. Maybe if we lived in a world where penetration and internal sensations were more openly discussed, women might discover that they can achieve orgasm from penetration alone, just like those in the survey.

In any case, I think this study is a reminder that there’s no one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to female pleasure. It’s a spectrum, and it really boils down to the individual and what works for them in the moment. So, let's continue to support open dialogue about it and encourage women to explore what feels best for them.

[deigo123]

The results of this survey are definitely eye-opening! For many people, the idea that penetration alone can lead to orgasm for most women seems almost counterintuitive, especially given how mainstream conversations often focus on the need for clitoral stimulation. I wonder if part of the reason for this is that women are often not encouraged to explore or tune into their own internal sensations during intercourse.

From what I’ve gathered, many women actually do have the capacity to orgasm from penetration, especially when the right angles and techniques are used. The key is being able to let go, be comfortable, and focus on the physical sensations without too much distraction. This can be tricky, though, if there’s too much pressure to perform or if there’s a lack of communication about what feels good. It seems like the survey highlights that, with the right conditions, women can experience a fulfilling orgasm just from penetration.

That being said, I do think there’s a wide variation in women’s experiences, and there are plenty of women who would still argue that they need clitoral stimulation to reach orgasm consistently. It’s clear that both internal and external factors contribute to sexual satisfaction, and the ideal experience might involve a combination of both, depending on the person.

In my opinion, what we really need to focus on is making sure that women feel empowered to explore all kinds of sensations, whether it’s through penetration, clitoral stimulation, or a mix of both. That’s where the real joy comes from—when women can freely discover what works best for their bodies, and men can become more attuned to those needs.

[antonio123]

I think the findings from IFOP are fascinating and a bit surprising, given how much emphasis is placed on the idea that most women require clitoral stimulation to orgasm. I’ve had experiences where penetration alone was enough to bring me to orgasm, and I can say it really depends on the position, the depth, and the rhythm of the movement. The idea that the right penetration can lead to orgasm makes sense, as some women may have areas inside their vagina that, when stimulated, can cause orgasmic sensations.

The key takeaway for me is that we need to debunk the myth that clitoral stimulation is always necessary for women to experience orgasm. While I think a lot of women may benefit from additional external stimulation, it’s also important to recognize that vaginal orgasms are possible for many women. The difference here is really the mindset and how you approach your sexual experience. If you're more focused on exploring different kinds of touch and communication with your partner, the potential for orgasmic pleasure becomes greater.

However, I’d also argue that the survey doesn't tell the whole story. While 68% of women may orgasm with penetration alone, it’s still important to keep in mind that not every orgasm is the same. Some orgasms might be more intense than others, and sometimes, factors like emotional connection, trust, and comfort play a significant role. As a man, understanding how to bring pleasure to your partner is about finding balance—mixing the physical and emotional components of sex to create a satisfying experience for both people.

Ultimately, this survey reinforces what I’ve always believed: every woman’s body is unique, and there’s no one-size-fits-all approach to sex. Understanding what works for your partner and being patient in the process of exploring different forms of touch and sensation will always lead to better sexual experiences.

[piciossa]

I find this survey really interesting because it challenges a lot of the common narratives about female orgasm. It’s often assumed that women can’t orgasm from penetration without clitoral stimulation, so it’s refreshing to see data that shows otherwise. That being said, I think there’s a nuance here that’s important to consider—just because women can orgasm from penetration alone doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s always the most fulfilling or frequent experience.

For some women, the right type of penetration can indeed lead to orgasm, especially when it stimulates certain spots inside. The angle and depth play a huge role in this. However, for others, clitoral stimulation is still the easiest and most reliable way to reach orgasm. It’s clear that there are different ways for women to achieve orgasm, and the IFOP survey just happens to highlight one of those paths.

What I appreciate most is that this survey shows how varied sexual experiences are among women. It’s a reminder that we need to be open-minded about how different bodies work. A lot of women don’t even realize that they can experience orgasm from penetration alone because we often focus so much on external stimulation. The key here is communication—being open with your partner about what feels good and experimenting to find the right mix of stimulation for both of you.

It’s also important to note that orgasm isn’t the only goal of sex. Sometimes, intimacy, connection, and exploring each other’s bodies can be just as fulfilling. So while the survey data is intriguing, let’s also remember that pleasure comes in many forms, and it’s about finding what works for each person.